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"Really hot weather we're having."
"yup."
"Last summer was pretty hot too."
"yup."
"Pretty hard to say with a straight face that global warming isn't a problem now!"

...

Which triggered, I must say, a bit of a rant. About how, if one's sole evidence for global warming was a couple of hot summers, then absolutely it would be hard to keep a straight face, because "evidence" like that is pretty much only worth laughing at.

"But it's the hottest summer evah in Melbourne! And last year was really hot too!".

Cue next rant about 200 years of records from a single place (the first hundred of which are somewhat .. suspect) not actually being much more useful in terms of analysing climate changes over THOUSANDS OF FUCKING YEARS.

Not that I'm claiming there ain't no such beast as global warming. Merely that if your most compelling evidence is "Recorded weather in Melbourne", then, well, the politest thing I can possibly say is that the jury might still be out on that one. And if you're going to say stupid things in the kitchen, some anally-retentive programmer who cares more about solid evidence than kneejerk feel-good socialism *is* going to call you on it.

sol.
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Date: 2003-12-15 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitling.livejournal.com
But climate change is happening - the age says so - it must be true

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/11/1071086166174.html?from=storyrhs

*grins* *ducks* *hides*

Yes.

Date: 2003-12-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyggerjai.livejournal.com
As it has constantly through the life of the planet.

No surprises there, eh?

But yes, that article is similarly light on actual scientific basis.

sol.
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A geologist told me

Date: 2003-12-16 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erudito.livejournal.com
That average Melbourne Summer temperatures have declined over the last 30 years -- a purely local effect he hastened to add (despite being a GW sceptic).

After moving back to Melbourne in '95, Melbourne Summers just didn't seem as stinking hot as I remembered from the late 60s. So the current sweltering is postively nostalgic. Though the wrong month. It's February's which are supposed to be truly disgustingly hot.

(no subject)

Date: 2003-12-16 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sly-girl.livejournal.com

Must ... Not ... Beat ... Hippies ....


You can't beat hippies. Hippies are invincible.

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Date: 2003-12-16 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyggerjai.livejournal.com
See, I'm simply going to insist on an empirical test here. Find me a hippie, and get them to tell me that global wamring *must* be true, it's really hot this summer!

Then we'll see.

sol.
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(no subject)

Date: 2003-12-17 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sly-girl.livejournal.com

Not hippy, hippies plural. If you strike down 1 hippy, a hundred
others will rise to take its place, probably screaming "Remember the
Solitaire Massacre" or something.

Here's proof

Date: 2003-12-18 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] longi.livejournal.com
Last year my bedroom was 16 degrees all day all summer. This year it is unbearably hot (41 at one point on wednesday).

Must be global warming.... or lack of aircon in this place... or something.

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