Must ... Not ... Beat ... Hippies ....
Dec. 16th, 2003 09:57 am"Really hot weather we're having."
"yup."
"Last summer was pretty hot too."
"yup."
"Pretty hard to say with a straight face that global warming isn't a problem now!"
...
Which triggered, I must say, a bit of a rant. About how, if one's sole evidence for global warming was a couple of hot summers, then absolutely it would be hard to keep a straight face, because "evidence" like that is pretty much only worth laughing at.
"But it's the hottest summer evah in Melbourne! And last year was really hot too!".
Cue next rant about 200 years of records from a single place (the first hundred of which are somewhat .. suspect) not actually being much more useful in terms of analysing climate changes over THOUSANDS OF FUCKING YEARS.
Not that I'm claiming there ain't no such beast as global warming. Merely that if your most compelling evidence is "Recorded weather in Melbourne", then, well, the politest thing I can possibly say is that the jury might still be out on that one. And if you're going to say stupid things in the kitchen, some anally-retentive programmer who cares more about solid evidence than kneejerk feel-good socialism *is* going to call you on it.
sol.
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"yup."
"Last summer was pretty hot too."
"yup."
"Pretty hard to say with a straight face that global warming isn't a problem now!"
...
Which triggered, I must say, a bit of a rant. About how, if one's sole evidence for global warming was a couple of hot summers, then absolutely it would be hard to keep a straight face, because "evidence" like that is pretty much only worth laughing at.
"But it's the hottest summer evah in Melbourne! And last year was really hot too!".
Cue next rant about 200 years of records from a single place (the first hundred of which are somewhat .. suspect) not actually being much more useful in terms of analysing climate changes over THOUSANDS OF FUCKING YEARS.
Not that I'm claiming there ain't no such beast as global warming. Merely that if your most compelling evidence is "Recorded weather in Melbourne", then, well, the politest thing I can possibly say is that the jury might still be out on that one. And if you're going to say stupid things in the kitchen, some anally-retentive programmer who cares more about solid evidence than kneejerk feel-good socialism *is* going to call you on it.
sol.
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(no subject)
Date: 2003-12-15 06:48 pm (UTC)http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/11/1071086166174.html?from=storyrhs
*grins* *ducks* *hides*
Yes.
Date: 2003-12-15 08:26 pm (UTC)No surprises there, eh?
But yes, that article is similarly light on actual scientific basis.
sol.
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A geologist told me
Date: 2003-12-16 01:28 am (UTC)After moving back to Melbourne in '95, Melbourne Summers just didn't seem as stinking hot as I remembered from the late 60s. So the current sweltering is postively nostalgic. Though the wrong month. It's February's which are supposed to be truly disgustingly hot.
(no subject)
Date: 2003-12-16 12:31 pm (UTC)Must ... Not ... Beat ... Hippies ....
You can't beat hippies. Hippies are invincible.
(no subject)
Date: 2003-12-16 05:39 pm (UTC)Then we'll see.
sol.
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(no subject)
Date: 2003-12-17 02:32 am (UTC)Not hippy, hippies plural. If you strike down 1 hippy, a hundred
others will rise to take its place, probably screaming "Remember the
Solitaire Massacre" or something.
Here's proof
Date: 2003-12-18 05:39 am (UTC)Must be global warming.... or lack of aircon in this place... or something.